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because of stories like this, that can paint the picture to the voters that obama's not playing ball. >> trying to explain this to somebody from pluto. say in australia now. saying when congress wrote the cliff, defined it, spend cuts, increases on income, tax increase on state. they wrote it up as this horrible thing that nobody would want to face. either side, right? they designed it that way. now they're walking right over that cliff. over niagra falls. explain. >> it's like congress is on pluto and we're all on earth. they say they want deficit reduction. if you go over the cliff, you get deficit reduction, you just don't get it in the responsible, accountable way. it's like chopping off on arm. >> like says i want a shower, i'm going to niagra falls. >> they still can't get it done. we're dysfunctional. no other explanation. >> i think they can stop the roller coaster and make it go. they're doing a dance now because republicans don't want to do something to rates. obama wants to play hardball. but i think they'll have a different argument later in the year. >> i guess both belie
because of stories like this, that can paint the picture to the voters that obama's not playing ball. >> trying to explain this to somebody from pluto. say in australia now. saying when congress wrote the cliff, defined it, spend cuts, increases on income, tax increase on state. they wrote it up as this horrible thing that nobody would want to face. either side, right? they designed it that way. now they're walking right over that cliff. over niagra falls. explain. >> it's like...
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debt obama is running up over the next decade. republicans have several schools. right now they have very little leverage onra this debate over e fiscal cliff because that stuff happens automatically, but the idea of a debt ceiling increasef they told obama more than once if you want a trillion dollars, you will need that eight times in the next decade they will have to cut spending a trillion have to cut spending a trillion eric: i'm a republican, congressman, senator tax pledge to not raise taxes. teo if somebody approaches me and says here is a bill that says if youhi sign this we will cut taxn for 98%, how can you say no to that? my point is this. the administration is winning the war of optics. if they played it this way, do they not win? >> they won the war of optics so far because everything has beene done. done inside closed walls.nd f if c-span, fox are able to videotape the negotiations, the kind of thing we're learning now about obama that i have no interest in cutting spending, just want tax increases. he has been lyin
debt obama is running up over the next decade. republicans have several schools. right now they have very little leverage onra this debate over e fiscal cliff because that stuff happens automatically, but the idea of a debt ceiling increasef they told obama more than once if you want a trillion dollars, you will need that eight times in the next decade they will have to cut spending a trillion have to cut spending a trillion eric: i'm a republican, congressman, senator tax pledge to not raise...
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president obama spending holidays in beautiful hawaii where reports now surfaced where he is looking to strike a smaller fiscal deal that would extend tax cuts for the middle class but not tackling any spending cuts. chief white house correspondent ed henry is live in honolulu with more. ed, for the first time, people like joe lieberman are saying i really think we'll go over the cliff. what do you hear? >> reporter: it's a real possibility, you're right. we're a week out. people on both sides have been talking this thing to death. it might need a christmas miracle at this point to avoid going off the cliff. the president scaled back plan basically would extend unemmoment benefits for two million people who will lose them a week after christmas if there is no deal. he also wants to extend tax cuts for 98% of americans. you heard him talk about that again and again. that level of $250,000 or less. the republicans have not afreed to that on the hill obviously. when you talk to folks like senator lindsey graham, they say the big issue is not taxes, it is spending cuts. take a listen. >>
president obama spending holidays in beautiful hawaii where reports now surfaced where he is looking to strike a smaller fiscal deal that would extend tax cuts for the middle class but not tackling any spending cuts. chief white house correspondent ed henry is live in honolulu with more. ed, for the first time, people like joe lieberman are saying i really think we'll go over the cliff. what do you hear? >> reporter: it's a real possibility, you're right. we're a week out. people on both...
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president obama spending the last few hours in hawaii relaxing before he heads back to washington to hope to get a deal and avoid the fiscal cliff. we look at what happens if the deal does not happen. spoiler alert, it will cause you money. grapevine, david gregory could be in trouble for a segment on his sunday show. we show you what happened. "special report" starts at 6:00 p.m. eastern standard time. now back to new york and "the five." ♪ ♪ ♪ >> kimberly: is it a horrible offense to be too good look? apparently so in iowa. they ruled a dentist james night had a right to fire his dental assistant melissa nelson for being too irresistible. and a perceived threat to his marriage. nelson worked in the office for ten years said she viewed knight as father figure and was fired after his wife complained about his infatuation with her. >> after working for so many years side-by-side, i didn't have any idea that that would have crossed his mind. i think it sends a message that men can do whatever they want in the workforce. >> kimberly: not nice. but apparently the iowa supreme court
president obama spending the last few hours in hawaii relaxing before he heads back to washington to hope to get a deal and avoid the fiscal cliff. we look at what happens if the deal does not happen. spoiler alert, it will cause you money. grapevine, david gregory could be in trouble for a segment on his sunday show. we show you what happened. "special report" starts at 6:00 p.m. eastern standard time. now back to new york and "the five." ♪ ♪ ♪ >> kimberly: is...
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>> it depends if he turns into bill clinton or remains barack obama. clinton understood his legacy, was what was important and he would be remembered as somebody who was good on the economy, as a democrat. guess what? he wasn't a typical democrat. he was forced to change. a lot of it had to do with the fact that the congress changed. we have divided government. if the president wants the same old, same old, he will get t. the republicans won't cave. it's equal branchings of government. they control two-thirds and it takes three to tango, the senate, white hussein. >> eric: terrific debate. >> heather: who is leading in the tango, that's what we don't know. congressional leaders are trying to come up with that deal, with less than two days before massive tax hikes and spending cuts kick in and small businesses are already being affected. companies have no idea how much more they are going to owe uncle sam next year. that is affecting how they are doing business right now. we have those details from the new york city newsroom. >> reporter: many small, ow
>> it depends if he turns into bill clinton or remains barack obama. clinton understood his legacy, was what was important and he would be remembered as somebody who was good on the economy, as a democrat. guess what? he wasn't a typical democrat. he was forced to change. a lot of it had to do with the fact that the congress changed. we have divided government. if the president wants the same old, same old, he will get t. the republicans won't cave. it's equal branchings of government....
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the obama plan, to the speakersi boehner plan, it will either o alter the rising rate of spending were less than the science of our bloated government. the answer in tonight "chalk talk" is coming up so, this board gives me rates for progressive direct and other car insurance companies? yes. but you're progressive, and they're them. yes. but they're here. yes. are you...? there? yes. no. are you them? i'm me. but those rates are for... them. so them are here. yes! you want to run through it again? no, i'm good. you got it? yes. rates for us and them -- now that's progressive. call or click today. lou: you know, everybody's getting pretty excited about that fiscal cliff negotiation or impasse, however you want to3 style it. mayi want t showu, lou: everybody is getting re ofed about the fiscal clifft, negotiation. i thought i would show you what thuld happen if we change into the speaker boehner plan, the president obama plan, let's start out with the do-nothing plan because that's the plan we0 have right now. the cbo estimates fiscal year 2013 deficit will be, well,lionf $104 trillion f
the obama plan, to the speakersi boehner plan, it will either o alter the rising rate of spending were less than the science of our bloated government. the answer in tonight "chalk talk" is coming up so, this board gives me rates for progressive direct and other car insurance companies? yes. but you're progressive, and they're them. yes. but they're here. yes. are you...? there? yes. no. are you them? i'm me. but those rates are for... them. so them are here. yes! you want to run...
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obama has stimulus spending built in. they are not far apart. [ overtalk ] >> eric: boehner can get $1 million and below -- just dance is because -- listen, you can't blame that on democrats. republicans would not come in -- >> andrea: how dare they do that to a guest. >> disgusted. >> kimberly: welcome to the program. >> we're out of time now. >> kimberly: time for a word from our sponsors. political fall-out. people are saying, blame the democrats and republicans. the democrats are winning the messaging here. who is to blame? >> correct me if i'm wrong. conventional wisdom is when all is said and done, obama will look well. what he doesn't care about is the popularity boost in the polls. what the president cares sabt the legacy. what happens when it's said and done, if the economy tankss and blows it, that is part of the legacy. >> juan: that is exactly right. >> kimberly: invested in getting something done here. >> eric: that is what they want everyone to believe if they get something done it's better for the economy.
obama has stimulus spending built in. they are not far apart. [ overtalk ] >> eric: boehner can get $1 million and below -- just dance is because -- listen, you can't blame that on democrats. republicans would not come in -- >> andrea: how dare they do that to a guest. >> disgusted. >> kimberly: welcome to the program. >> we're out of time now. >> kimberly: time for a word from our sponsors. political fall-out. people are saying, blame the democrats and...
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what obama has been able to do is shift the argument from cutting and spending to now spending and borrowing. cutting is even part of it. >> we have to leave it there. coming up, it's the day after christmas. you know what that means? all the bad kids going bad. [laughter] >> let's tell you what the finalist got from santa. and this woman said she was fired from her job for being too sexy, her boss couldn't handle it. that's ahead on "the five." ♪ with the spark miles card from capital one, thor gets great rewards for his small business! your boa! [ garth ] thor's small business earns double miles on every purchase, every day! ahh, the new fabrics. put it on my spark card. ow. [ garth ] why settle for less? the spiked heels are working. wait! [ garth ] great businesses deserve great rewards. [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with double miles or 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? [ cheers and applause ] >> welcome back. it's been a rough couple months for republicans. they first lost the election -- i guess
what obama has been able to do is shift the argument from cutting and spending to now spending and borrowing. cutting is even part of it. >> we have to leave it there. coming up, it's the day after christmas. you know what that means? all the bad kids going bad. [laughter] >> let's tell you what the finalist got from santa. and this woman said she was fired from her job for being too sexy, her boss couldn't handle it. that's ahead on "the five." ♪ with the spark miles...
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that's the same day president obama will return. he's spending christmas in hawaii with his family. that leaves them just five days to get a deal done to avoid steep tax hikes and big-time spending cuts. senators on both sides of the aisle say both parties need to compromise to avoid a potential economic disaster. >>> last-minute shoppers may not have been as merry this year as retailers had hoped. good morning. >> good morning to you. shoppers filled the malls and stores on the final weekend before christmas but many people may have not been filled with holiday spirit this year. research group npd says customer traffic was in line with last year but consumers are spending less. a combination of factors may be weighing on their minds including the tax impact of the fiscal cliff, aftereffects of sandy and shootings in connecticut. 'tis the season for giving but many charities aren't on the receiving end. the single biggest source of revenue for most charities are down as you are big gifts from endowments. the u.s. million dollar list which tracks large donations has found that big gi
that's the same day president obama will return. he's spending christmas in hawaii with his family. that leaves them just five days to get a deal done to avoid steep tax hikes and big-time spending cuts. senators on both sides of the aisle say both parties need to compromise to avoid a potential economic disaster. >>> last-minute shoppers may not have been as merry this year as retailers had hoped. good morning. >> good morning to you. shoppers filled the malls and stores on the...
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spending built in there. these guys are not far apart. but what we have -- >> the problem -- [overlapping dialogue] >> boehner can get a million dollars -- >> no, no. that's because -- you can't blame that on the democrats [overlapping dialogue] >> how dare they do this to a guest. how dare you? >> welcome tote program. >> thank you very much. >> we are out of time now. [laughter] >> now a word from our sponsors. i want to ask you about political fallout. a lot of people are saying -- let's blame the democrats or the republicans. right now, it seems the democrats are winning the messaging game here. but who will be to blame if we go over the cliff? >> correct me if i am wrong -- especially you -- but it seems like the conventional wisdom, when wh all is said and done, obama will come out looking nice. but right now, what he doesn't care about is a popularity boost in the polls. what ultimately the president cares about, like all presidents, is the legacy. what happens after all of this is said and done, four
spending built in there. these guys are not far apart. but what we have -- >> the problem -- [overlapping dialogue] >> boehner can get a million dollars -- >> no, no. that's because -- you can't blame that on the democrats [overlapping dialogue] >> how dare they do this to a guest. how dare you? >> welcome tote program. >> thank you very much. >> we are out of time now. [laughter] >> now a word from our sponsors. i want to ask you about political...
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spending built in there. these guys are not far apart. but what we have -- >> the problem -- [overlapping dialogue] >> boehner can get a million dollars -- >> no, no. that's because -- you can't blame that on the democrats [overlapping dialogue] >> how dare they do this to a guest. how dare you? >> welcome tote program. >> thank you very much. >> we are out of time now. [laughter] >> now a word from our sponsors. i want to ask you about political fallout. a lot of people are saying -- let's blame the democrats or the republicans. right now, it seems the democrats are winning the messaging game here. but who will be to blame if we go over the cliff? >> correct me if i am wrong -- especially you -- but it seems like the conventional wisdom, when wh all is said and done, obama will come out looking nice. but right now, what he doesn't care about is a popularity boost in the polls. what ultimately the president cares about, like all presidents, is the legacy. what happens after all of this is said and done, four
spending built in there. these guys are not far apart. but what we have -- >> the problem -- [overlapping dialogue] >> boehner can get a million dollars -- >> no, no. that's because -- you can't blame that on the democrats [overlapping dialogue] >> how dare they do this to a guest. how dare you? >> welcome tote program. >> thank you very much. >> we are out of time now. [laughter] >> now a word from our sponsors. i want to ask you about political...
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president obama welcomes congressional leaders at the top of the hour. will come up with something to avoid automatic spending cuts? that go into effect in a couple days? rich edson is in washington d.c. with the latest. rich: it is a last-ditch attempt between top democrat and republican in the house and senate and the obama administration. aids describing a potential path forward, smaller compromise involving an extension of tax rates for income less than $500,000, extended unemployment benefits, measures to assure tens of millions of americans avoid the alternative minimum tax, other items, congress would figure the rest out next year under such a scenario but that is not an official proposal, a deal that aides say could have house and senate if democrat and republican leaders agreed to it. currently there is no agreement, just lawmakers assigning blame. >> millions of americans are out there struggling and certainly they deserve congress that will avoid going over the fiscal cliff. which is why the president has been working to bring the leaders toge
president obama welcomes congressional leaders at the top of the hour. will come up with something to avoid automatic spending cuts? that go into effect in a couple days? rich edson is in washington d.c. with the latest. rich: it is a last-ditch attempt between top democrat and republican in the house and senate and the obama administration. aids describing a potential path forward, smaller compromise involving an extension of tax rates for income less than $500,000, extended unemployment...
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what obama is able to do is shift the argument from cutting and spending to now spending and borrowing. cutting is part of it. >> eric: leave it there. coming up, the day after christmas. you know what that means? all the bad gifts are going back. tell you what the five of us got from san. the plus, this woman says she was fired from her job for from being too sexy. her boss couldn't handle it. her story ahead on "the five." ♪ ♪ >> andrea: welcome back. rough couple of months for republicans. they first lost the presidential election. i guess you can keep the music going. why not? losing ground for negotiation on deal for fiscal cliff so no surprise they are using hope for the future. "washington post"/abc news poll says 72% of the g.o.p. is fearful about what lies ahead in 2013. all right, so let's take a look at the 72% of republicans say they are very fearful, which is up by double digits than what they were i guess under president bush. so greg, are republicans more grounded in reason, they see the future as nail biter? >> greg: conservatives are vampire killers. liberals hate
what obama is able to do is shift the argument from cutting and spending to now spending and borrowing. cutting is part of it. >> eric: leave it there. coming up, the day after christmas. you know what that means? all the bad gifts are going back. tell you what the five of us got from san. the plus, this woman says she was fired from her job for from being too sexy. her boss couldn't handle it. her story ahead on "the five." ♪ ♪ >> andrea: welcome back. rough couple of...
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. >>> looking beyond the senate deal, president obama is warning republicans that if they want future spending cuts, they're going to have to provide more tax revenue as well. >> if republicans think that i will finish the job of deficit reduction through spending cuts alone -- and you hear that sometimes coming from them, that sort of after today we're just going to try to shove only spending cuts down -- well, shove spending cuts at us. if they think that's going to be the formula for how we solve this thing, then they've got another think coming. >> that midday news conference didn't go over well with a lot of republicans, and they said that the president's sometimes mocking tone, as they felt it was, could hurt the fiscal cliff deal in the house. >> as i sort out my impressions of the president's remarks as to whether to be angry or to saddened. we have the president of the united states go over and have a cheerleading ridiculing of republicans exercise. >> let's bring in democratic strategist and former edwards communications director chris ka fiance and republican strategist and
. >>> looking beyond the senate deal, president obama is warning republicans that if they want future spending cuts, they're going to have to provide more tax revenue as well. >> if republicans think that i will finish the job of deficit reduction through spending cuts alone -- and you hear that sometimes coming from them, that sort of after today we're just going to try to shove only spending cuts down -- well, shove spending cuts at us. if they think that's going to be the...
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. >> president obama drawing strong criticism about the wars in iraq and afghanistan and he said hagel is the wrong man for the job. ♪ ♪ >> clayton: welcome back. lawmakers have eight days left when a series of spending hikes and tax cuts come n you will see a slash of spending of 500 billion dollars over the next 10 years and nine percent in speppeding alone. joining us is ceo of concerned veterans for america and u.s. army veteran himself. pete, nice to see you and merry christmas to you. >> thank you for having me. >> clayton: defense cuts set to take place in the end of the year . president obama knows this and set to expire is the bush era tax cuts . what impact will this have on the military? >> it will have an across the board impactit sequestration is so bad. we'll get across the board training to maintenance and to the next weapon system and on base things provided for families and tri-care. it hits everything. secretary panetta called it a meat axe. our readiness will be stunted by sequestration . it is bad policy. >> clayton: republicans agreed to it. you agree and say t
. >> president obama drawing strong criticism about the wars in iraq and afghanistan and he said hagel is the wrong man for the job. ♪ ♪ >> clayton: welcome back. lawmakers have eight days left when a series of spending hikes and tax cuts come n you will see a slash of spending of 500 billion dollars over the next 10 years and nine percent in speppeding alone. joining us is ceo of concerned veterans for america and u.s. army veteran himself. pete, nice to see you and merry...
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then we have massive spending, $8 trillion in debt that obama's running up the next decade. republicans have several tools. right now we have very well leverage in the debate over the fiscal cliff because that stuff happens automatically but the idea of a debt ceiling increase, they've told oba if you want a trillion dollar in higher debt and he needs that eight times in the next decade, you have to cut spending a trillion dollars. >> here, i'll ask you again. 0 i'm a republican congressman and i signed your tax pledge to not raise taxes. if someone says here's a bill that says if you sign this we will cut taxes for 98% of americans. how could youay no? my point is, the administration is winning the war of optics. if they played it out this way, do they not win? >> well, they've won the war of optics so far because everything's been done in camera. it's been done inside closed walls. if c-span and fox and -- were able to videotape the negotiations, the kind of thing we're learning nowbout how obama said i have no interesting in cutting spending, he's been lying for two mons
then we have massive spending, $8 trillion in debt that obama's running up the next decade. republicans have several tools. right now we have very well leverage in the debate over the fiscal cliff because that stuff happens automatically but the idea of a debt ceiling increase, they've told oba if you want a trillion dollar in higher debt and he needs that eight times in the next decade, you have to cut spending a trillion dollars. >> here, i'll ask you again. 0 i'm a republican...
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then we have massive spending, $8 trillion in debt that obama's running up the next decade. republicans have several tools. right now we have very well leverage in the debate over the fiscal cliff because that stuff happens automatically but the idea of a debt ceiling increase, they've told obama if you want a trillion dollars in higher debt and he needs that eight times in the next decade, you have to cut spending a trillion dollars. >> here, i'll ask you again. 0 i'm a republican congressman and i signed your tax pledge to not raise taxes. if someone says here's a bill that says if you sign this we will cut taxes for 98% of americans. how could you say no? my point is, the administration is winning the war of optics. if they played it out this way, do they not win? >> well, they've won the war of optics so far because everything's been done in camera. it's been done inside closed walls. if c-span and fox and -- were able to videotape the negotiations, the kind of thing we're learning now about how obama said i have no interesting in cutting spending, he's been lying for tw
then we have massive spending, $8 trillion in debt that obama's running up the next decade. republicans have several tools. right now we have very well leverage in the debate over the fiscal cliff because that stuff happens automatically but the idea of a debt ceiling increase, they've told obama if you want a trillion dollars in higher debt and he needs that eight times in the next decade, you have to cut spending a trillion dollars. >> here, i'll ask you again. 0 i'm a republican...
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president obama has a political capital. it is like money -- how do you spend it? he can spend it on helping our schools. he can spend it with regard to our affairs in the middle east. those are tough questions to answer. my priority is always education and our long term problems. i'm not a deficit hawk. people on both sides do bothwell. i don't understand the fuss about raising the age qualification for social security are medicare. and plead with the caps -- simply lift the caps. franklin roosevelt to not want to be called a socialist. if we just lived in those caps, we would delay -- i can remember the exact numbers. for several decades, anyway. i think that would be less painful than raising the qualified age. medicare is the toughest because of health care costs have been skyrocketing. our country's health care cost is rising faster than any other industrial nation. we don't have much coronation. obamacare had to be cobbled together to appease everybody. we have it and we should be focusing on ways to make our health care more efficient and i think we will. th
president obama has a political capital. it is like money -- how do you spend it? he can spend it on helping our schools. he can spend it with regard to our affairs in the middle east. those are tough questions to answer. my priority is always education and our long term problems. i'm not a deficit hawk. people on both sides do bothwell. i don't understand the fuss about raising the age qualification for social security are medicare. and plead with the caps -- simply lift the caps. franklin...
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the simple reason, tom, obama will not agree to any significant spending cut. so why give him any kind of a grand bargain that the press will give him credit for and he can end the year as some kind of victorious guy? if you look at the u.s. deficit is about $4 trillion a year. these tax increases cover about 400 billion. that's 9 or 10%. that's. it the rest of this battle is over entitlements. i mean the democrats could solve this whole thing simply by agreeing to a minor increase, just a two year increase. >> the president did put that on the table and the republicans reject that. the real issue here is there going to be a self-inflicted wound to the economy? the uncertainty here. either way taxes on the wealthy are going up. they'll go up under a deal approved in the last hours which may or may not happen or if it doesn't, there's no deal, then we go over the so-called cliff and the tax goes up there. so either way taxes are going up. >> if the president wanted a deal on entitlements, all he has to do is raise the age from social security to 65 to 67, maybe
the simple reason, tom, obama will not agree to any significant spending cut. so why give him any kind of a grand bargain that the press will give him credit for and he can end the year as some kind of victorious guy? if you look at the u.s. deficit is about $4 trillion a year. these tax increases cover about 400 billion. that's 9 or 10%. that's. it the rest of this battle is over entitlements. i mean the democrats could solve this whole thing simply by agreeing to a minor increase, just a two...
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if you look two years ago at the ratio obama was proposing spending cuts versus revenue. it was four to one. now it's one to one. >> you have that $1 trillion already passed. >> you do. but i think the credit the tea party gets for shifting that debate wag overblown. >> but it was deficit reduction versus short-term spending at the start of 2010. and it immediately moved to deficit reduction and how to do it. and that was a very fundamental, important shift in the conversation. >> we have to go, but -- we have to go, but i heard that after the show, sam stein will be on twiner. you can be there, too. >> we can get together. >> we have another important item, though, which is the biggest hurdle arguably to president obama's second term agenda. that's something you're probably never going to hear about, literally. people think of the filibuster as a talk athon to stop action in the senate. but nowadays it has been attacked with a constant extreme of silent filibusters. up next, the talking filibuster ahead live. >>> time for the your business preer oes weeks. amber and mark
if you look two years ago at the ratio obama was proposing spending cuts versus revenue. it was four to one. now it's one to one. >> you have that $1 trillion already passed. >> you do. but i think the credit the tea party gets for shifting that debate wag overblown. >> but it was deficit reduction versus short-term spending at the start of 2010. and it immediately moved to deficit reduction and how to do it. and that was a very fundamental, important shift in the...
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and so this is not going to be simply a matter of me spending political capital. >> president obama on "meet the press" over the weekend. in the wake of the newtown, connecticut school shootings. the president insisted he wants new gun control legislation passed in the next year. he put vice president biden in charge of that task force to make recommendations to him. democratic congressman john yarmouth of kentucky joins us now and he sits on the budget oversight and government reform and ethics committees. good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> what is your thought on what the president said on "meet the press?" >> i think he is absolutely right. what sets this apart, however, is that we do have presidential leadership on this issue. that is something that hasn't been there during past attempts to do something to curb gun violence. i am thrilled about that. i agree with him totally. i've said many times the public has to keep the drum beat going because unless there is a perceived cost to many of the politicians up here not much is likely to happen. we have to make sure the publi
and so this is not going to be simply a matter of me spending political capital. >> president obama on "meet the press" over the weekend. in the wake of the newtown, connecticut school shootings. the president insisted he wants new gun control legislation passed in the next year. he put vice president biden in charge of that task force to make recommendations to him. democratic congressman john yarmouth of kentucky joins us now and he sits on the budget oversight and government...
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president obama and congressional leaders will meet this afternoon at the white house in a last-ditch effort to avoid a self-inflicted fiscal calamity. this is the first meeting between the power plays in six weeks. if they can't work out some kind of agreement automatic tax hikes and spending cuts will go into affected new year's day, which will impact most americans and will put the nation back into recession. >> we are coming up against a hard deadline. >> at today's meeting, president obama will push for a stop gap measure, a small deal that will at least prevent tax increases for those earning $250,000 or less. but even that seems unlikely. >> the american people have a right to be very upset with this congress. >> publicly, both sides have ratcheted up rhetoric, pointing the finger. >> john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> the only reason why democrats have been trying to defect -- deflect attention over the past few weeks is they did not have a plan of their own. >> the path for the rest in the hands
president obama and congressional leaders will meet this afternoon at the white house in a last-ditch effort to avoid a self-inflicted fiscal calamity. this is the first meeting between the power plays in six weeks. if they can't work out some kind of agreement automatic tax hikes and spending cuts will go into affected new year's day, which will impact most americans and will put the nation back into recession. >> we are coming up against a hard deadline. >> at today's meeting,...
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we're spending way too much money. as your previous guest was just talking about, we're hitting the debt ceiling, 16 trillion, they want to increase it to 18 trillion. by 2022, it will be 25 trillion the at some point this all comes crashing down. >> we already had the debt ceiling issue during the summer of 2011 being taken to the brink of having our credit ratings. based on the fact that neither side could politically come together. that was all in an effort to try to discredit the president so that they could get him out come november of 2012. now, that doesn't happen. the president has a wide mandate to be back in the hoff. why does the tea party not get that? >> you know obama ran on the fact that he would raise taxes. >>> more democrats were votes in. tea party members lost seats in this election. >> liberals lost seats, too. that's what happens every election. if there had been a great groundswell of effort that we have to raise taxes, we have to implement this huge liberal big spending agenda john boehner would
we're spending way too much money. as your previous guest was just talking about, we're hitting the debt ceiling, 16 trillion, they want to increase it to 18 trillion. by 2022, it will be 25 trillion the at some point this all comes crashing down. >> we already had the debt ceiling issue during the summer of 2011 being taken to the brink of having our credit ratings. based on the fact that neither side could politically come together. that was all in an effort to try to discredit the...
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the same goes for president obama who will spend christmas in hawaii. that leaves them five days to get a deal done to avoid steep tax hikes and big-time spending cuts. senators on both sides of the aisle say both parties need to compromise to avoid a potential economic disaster. >> my one bit of advice to speaker boehner is this. you cannot pass a bill with just republicans on a broad thing like this, you need both. >> ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want that's a good day. we have the same objective of lower taxes. i like simpson-bowles. put money on the debt. tax rate hikes are partisan solution driven by the president but he's going to get tax rate hikes. >> lawmakers say they are preparing to spend new year's eve on capitol hill. >> one of the survivors in the oregon mall shooting is speaking out for the first time. the 15 year old was shot december 11th. she was walking through the mall and says the gunman walked right past her carrying what she thought was a paintball gun. seconds later bullets started flying and she was hit mul
the same goes for president obama who will spend christmas in hawaii. that leaves them five days to get a deal done to avoid steep tax hikes and big-time spending cuts. senators on both sides of the aisle say both parties need to compromise to avoid a potential economic disaster. >> my one bit of advice to speaker boehner is this. you cannot pass a bill with just republicans on a broad thing like this, you need both. >> ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want that's a...
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they can cut taxes, spending, and blame the gop. the gop is doing the smart thing and pointing the finger at the real problem, which is out-of-control spending. fixing the not going to be easy, but it's not complicated. we can't just rely on raising taxes. we have to look at cutting spending and the republicans are doing that, even more so with gite ner pointing out the -- geithner pointing out the fact, warning us on the debt ceiling. this shows us we have out of control spending and raising taxes is not going to get us out of this mess. >> alice, you realize that most americans think you need a combination of tax hikes and spending cuts. it's not just one half of the deal. this is republicans and democrats, about 70% of americans, so it's not just a one-sided deal, and the second thing to say is, you know, these guys aren't that far apart. you know, in fact, when you look at how much revenue boehner has put on the table, he's close to a trillion dollars and he's just simply saying i want a trillion dollars in spending cuts as with
they can cut taxes, spending, and blame the gop. the gop is doing the smart thing and pointing the finger at the real problem, which is out-of-control spending. fixing the not going to be easy, but it's not complicated. we can't just rely on raising taxes. we have to look at cutting spending and the republicans are doing that, even more so with gite ner pointing out the -- geithner pointing out the fact, warning us on the debt ceiling. this shows us we have out of control spending and raising...
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if that's part of it and obama looking for at least some infrastructure, some stimulus spending. are any of those components in this deal? >> i don't think the spending part is addressed. i could be wrong and i believe per child tax credit is, in fact, addressed and extended in some way, shape or form and heard the president say some of the incentives for green energy in place in the stimulus. as well. i'm not sure if i heard you mention the alternative minimum tax for the wealthy and dipped in to the middle class and every year congress has to put it off. what's in this bill is a permanent revocation, a perm inconsistent fix, if you will, of the alternative men mum tax. that's astonishing. almost a trillion dollars cut from the baseline over ten years and appears that would be in the bill but put out the big caution here because nothing is voted on yet. there's no -- the ink is not dry. the signatures not on the document. if there's a deal, it is still not quite there yet. that big fight as we have been describing over those spending cuts, automatic spending cuts over ten years.
if that's part of it and obama looking for at least some infrastructure, some stimulus spending. are any of those components in this deal? >> i don't think the spending part is addressed. i could be wrong and i believe per child tax credit is, in fact, addressed and extended in some way, shape or form and heard the president say some of the incentives for green energy in place in the stimulus. as well. i'm not sure if i heard you mention the alternative minimum tax for the wealthy and...
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, with five days left until the fiscal cliff of tax hikes and spending cuts. the house planned to reconvene on sunday evening. a christmas season storm rolled through the northeast and new england, as the death toll climbed to 16. and lisa jackson announced she's stepping down as administrator of the environmental protection agency. and online, we've got a unique year-in-review of sorts. kwame holman has more. >> holman: science correspondent miles o'brien has had a most interesting 2012. he's crawled in sewage, cuddled with dolphins and played guinea pig to lots of experiments. watch some of the best outtakes of miles' science stories on the rundown. and we round up the most important lessons we've learned about helping kids stay in school from our series, american graduate. all that and more is on our web site newshour.pbs.org. margaret? >> warner: and that's the "newshour" for tonight. i'm margaret warner. >> brown: and i'm jeffrey brown. we'll see you online and again here tomorrow evening with mark shields and david brooks among others. thank you and good
, with five days left until the fiscal cliff of tax hikes and spending cuts. the house planned to reconvene on sunday evening. a christmas season storm rolled through the northeast and new england, as the death toll climbed to 16. and lisa jackson announced she's stepping down as administrator of the environmental protection agency. and online, we've got a unique year-in-review of sorts. kwame holman has more. >> holman: science correspondent miles o'brien has had a most interesting 2012....
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. >>> president obama is leaving the first family in hawaii. he's cutting the vacation short to return to washington, d.c. hopefully to restart the negotiations over those job killing spending cuts and tax hikes set to take effect in the new year. joining me now is congressman gregory meeks, democrat of new york and serves on the financial services committee. i told you if anything goes off or need to rush out of here because you have gotten a call back to d.c. you let me know. plirt coe reporting today, as of christmas day, they do not have the standard warning to come back to washington to resolve the so-called fiscal cliff. it's boehner and other gop leaders aren't going to herd 433 lawmakers back to town with nothing to do. when you hear that, and you know what's been going on and what's expected of you in the new year, what are your hopes for something small, maybe not as ambitious as a grand bargain but something small getting done before january 1st? >> i would like to see a grand deal. but we should do something. too many people hurt, f
. >>> president obama is leaving the first family in hawaii. he's cutting the vacation short to return to washington, d.c. hopefully to restart the negotiations over those job killing spending cuts and tax hikes set to take effect in the new year. joining me now is congressman gregory meeks, democrat of new york and serves on the financial services committee. i told you if anything goes off or need to rush out of here because you have gotten a call back to d.c. you let me know. plirt...
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president obama is he close to the same number they are about $300 billion apart. they are 1 hers apart from this whole deal. the problem is they are not putting spending cuts on the table. what they're doing is putting proposed possible cuts but the stimulus spending they are putting on the table also offsets that tax increase that he wants. still looking at trillion-dollar deficit. that just goes to show spending cuts. right now we don't have them. talks about them and there is accounting fuzzy math going on but there is not any serious entitlement reform. we can't just wait and talk about that in january. needs to be included in any package before we go forward. >> you know, juan, the point she is making when we talk about spending cuts. basically a guy pulling the olives off a meat lover's pizza and saying he is on a diet. something so incidental and ignoring this huge huge problem this black hole that is spending. it's true. we are going nowhere. >> no, i disagree. you know what? >> you like picking the olives off. that's you and spending cuts. >> not only tha
president obama is he close to the same number they are about $300 billion apart. they are 1 hers apart from this whole deal. the problem is they are not putting spending cuts on the table. what they're doing is putting proposed possible cuts but the stimulus spending they are putting on the table also offsets that tax increase that he wants. still looking at trillion-dollar deficit. that just goes to show spending cuts. right now we don't have them. talks about them and there is accounting...
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president obama can't raise enough money through his tax plans to cover all the spending. that means he could resume other ways for the revenue to come in. will a carbon tax be among them? joining us now from the american action forum, sam, we know the president wants this thing. he tried desperately, even with democrats holding both houses of congress, however, he couldn't get it. will he try to pursue it in his first year of the second term? >> well, there's certainly a lot of revenue out there. a lot of projections are, if carbon is at $20 per ton of carbon, it could generate roughly a trillion dollars over the next ten years, of course, that figure of $20 would increase, but i think it's pretty tough for republicans to swallow another trillion dollars in revenue from a carbon tax, so i don't think it's very likely to get 60 votes in the senate or for speaker boehner from ohio which is a big coal producing area, which would be hit the hardest by a carbon tax, i don't think it's likely he would bring that up for a vote. david: here is another scenario though. the preside
president obama can't raise enough money through his tax plans to cover all the spending. that means he could resume other ways for the revenue to come in. will a carbon tax be among them? joining us now from the american action forum, sam, we know the president wants this thing. he tried desperately, even with democrats holding both houses of congress, however, he couldn't get it. will he try to pursue it in his first year of the second term? >> well, there's certainly a lot of revenue...
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obama and congress can not agree on a stopgap measure, automatic hikes and spending cuts will hit americans jan 1. peter doocy live in washington with more on this peter, what is the latest? >> reporter: gregg, the president said on friday he would see it this week and maybe if lawmakers went back to home districts to drink eggnog and eat cookies and sing christmas carols maybe they would be more in touch with the hardship so many americans are going to face if the fiscal cliff is not avoided. >> there is a mismatch right now between how everybody else is thinking about these problems. democrats and republicans, outside of this town and how folks are operating here and we've just got to get that aligned. >> reporter: the president's wife and daughters are going to stay in hawaii to continue vacationing. we're told the president may rejoin them or he may not. it all depends on how negotiations progress in the next few days. gregg: well, you know what, peter? there's not lost love between boehner and president obama. are they going to meet? >> reporter: they might, gregg. the speaker is expec
obama and congress can not agree on a stopgap measure, automatic hikes and spending cuts will hit americans jan 1. peter doocy live in washington with more on this peter, what is the latest? >> reporter: gregg, the president said on friday he would see it this week and maybe if lawmakers went back to home districts to drink eggnog and eat cookies and sing christmas carols maybe they would be more in touch with the hardship so many americans are going to face if the fiscal cliff is not...
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the obama plan, to the speakersi boehner plan, it will either o alter the rising rate of spending were less than the science of our bloated government. the answer in tonight "chalk [ male announcer ] how can power consumption in china, impact wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. ro price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. lou: you know, everybody's getting pretty excited about that fiscal cliff negotiation or impasse, however you want to3 style it. mayi want t showu, lou: everybody is getting re ofed about the fiscal clifft, negotiation. i thoughtht i would show you wht thuld happen if we change into thspeaker boehner plan, the president obama plan, let's start out with the do-nothing plan because that's the plan we0 hav
the obama plan, to the speakersi boehner plan, it will either o alter the rising rate of spending were less than the science of our bloated government. the answer in tonight "chalk [ male announcer ] how can power consumption in china, impact wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their...
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entitlements that obama thinks -- he is spending $5 million of taxpayer money for a vacation. everybody is going to have to pay more taxes. why? what are the entitlements going to the politicians? they get a six-figure salary and everything is paid for. you try to get into the white house or one of the senator's place. they are heavily guarded with rifles. it is the democrats back door. you have to know what is in the bill. host: thank you for the call. this is from "the washington times." "leaders find agreement on farm bill." host: and from nbc news, moron hillary clinton, -- more on hillary clinton who remains hospitalized this morning after it blood clot had formed. the clot stems from a concussion she sustained several weeks ago. she is in new york president obama -- new york presbyterian hospital. her doctors will continue to assess her condition and will determine if any further action is required. she has not been seen in public in three weeks. was supposed to come back to office this week. next is ron from cincinnati, good morning. caller: i wish mrs. clinton well. th
entitlements that obama thinks -- he is spending $5 million of taxpayer money for a vacation. everybody is going to have to pay more taxes. why? what are the entitlements going to the politicians? they get a six-figure salary and everything is paid for. you try to get into the white house or one of the senator's place. they are heavily guarded with rifles. it is the democrats back door. you have to know what is in the bill. host: thank you for the call. this is from "the washington...
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and would be vee toad by president obama. so this is what we're seeing on the statement the day after christmas is while you guys figure out some solution, we wash our hands of it. >> as a follow-up, i'm putting my press secretary hat on for a second and say the response i would expect from the democratic side from the senate is hey, we passed a bill too. we passed a bill that does the same thing. why don't you just take our bill and go ahead and get it through? we need your help. >> they could well do that. the bill that has the $250,000 or below. it's interesting now that essentially here we have speaker boehner walking away saying well the senate has to act. they can do whatever. we're going to say on vacation. who does harry reid have to negotiate with them? where does he go? >> the president and harry reid can only negotiate so much. >> the question becomes if they can get a bill for 250 and below perhaps with the unemployment insurance attached to it, maybe put in sweetener with the estate tax, could they guarantee that
and would be vee toad by president obama. so this is what we're seeing on the statement the day after christmas is while you guys figure out some solution, we wash our hands of it. >> as a follow-up, i'm putting my press secretary hat on for a second and say the response i would expect from the democratic side from the senate is hey, we passed a bill too. we passed a bill that does the same thing. why don't you just take our bill and go ahead and get it through? we need your help....
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when you study the obama budget that would increase to 32%. that's where the problem has to i am emanate from. the spending side of our budget is 62% of what we spend money on. it's not just about defense or discretionary. >> is there any indication the president's deal, that he may come back with, will address spending? i haven't heard substantial spending cuts out of any deals on the left. >> absolutely you are not hearing that whatsoever. when i listen to senator chuck schumer say the president ran on raising taxes and says he won, we should do that, i have to tell you i'm not such and idiotic person to follow someone off into the abyss. this is a political gimmick the president ran on. he did win the election but when you look at the house, the republicans maintain their majority there and that's where revenue bills emanate from. >> we have to leave it there. always great to have you. >> happy new year. >> you too. amid all this fighting in washington, my next guest has a plan to fight the nation's debt and it doesn't rely on congress at a
when you study the obama budget that would increase to 32%. that's where the problem has to i am emanate from. the spending side of our budget is 62% of what we spend money on. it's not just about defense or discretionary. >> is there any indication the president's deal, that he may come back with, will address spending? i haven't heard substantial spending cuts out of any deals on the left. >> absolutely you are not hearing that whatsoever. when i listen to senator chuck schumer...
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the obama plan, to the speakersi boehner plan, it will either o alter the rising rate of spending were less than the science of our bloated government. the answer in tonight "chalk talk" is coming up next you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that helps block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon®. your soups are so awesomely delicious my husband and i can't stop eating 'em! what's...that... on your head? can curlers! tomato basil, tato with bacon... we've got a lot of empty cans. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. lou: you know, everybody's getting pretty excited about that fiscal cliff negotiation or impasse, however you want to3 style it. mayi want t showu, lou: everybody is getting re ofed about the fiscal clifft, negotiation. i thought i would show you what thuld happen if we change into the speaker boehner plan, the president obama plan, let's start out with the do-nothing plan because that's the
the obama plan, to the speakersi boehner plan, it will either o alter the rising rate of spending were less than the science of our bloated government. the answer in tonight "chalk talk" is coming up next you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that helps block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon®. your soups are so...
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sikh that was president obama sharing his thoughts on the debate over cutting federal spending. while there were reports of significant progress a short time ago. there is concern from republicans that they are giving the president the tax hikes he requested without getting spending breaks in return at a time when the federal deficits are running a trillion a year. the president talks about a balanced solution. we'll update as we hear more from the nation's capital. arthel: while the president blames congress for the problems in washington. a georgetown law professor says our problems start our constitution and announces we need a new form of government. i'm going to start with dee dee on this. i'm a big fan of hdtv. do we need to make over the constitution? >> let's get rid of the one thing holding us all together. washington is broken, obviously we have problems. is this guy crazy? i'll call him louie. dose want a monarchy. i think he should take a sabbatical to cuba or saudi arabia where there is no constitution. the constitution protects this guy. >> the professor argued why
sikh that was president obama sharing his thoughts on the debate over cutting federal spending. while there were reports of significant progress a short time ago. there is concern from republicans that they are giving the president the tax hikes he requested without getting spending breaks in return at a time when the federal deficits are running a trillion a year. the president talks about a balanced solution. we'll update as we hear more from the nation's capital. arthel: while the president...
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spending. >> we can't ford a politically self-inflict wound to the economy. if they don't pan out, he is ready to plomyself -- propose his own tax bill. patience is wearing thin. >> for those of us investing in the stock market, it's disgusting to watch them jockey around with our money. >> reporter: missing in all the last-minute northbounds is talks about the $1.2 trillion mandatory spending cuts scheduled to go into affect tuesday. tara mergener for cbs news, washington. >>> three people are dead after a late-night apartment fire in san jose. the fire began after 11 last night on bridgeport court on the city's west side. the san jose fire department put out the blaze and then discovered the bodies of a man, woman, and child. >> they will upgrade the alarm and to have some personnel in place. we had multiple rescues in the middle of the night, no people are sleeping and we need to get our resources. >> three others, including the officer injured were hospitalized and the fire displaced 56 people from the building. investigators are still looking into the ca
spending. >> we can't ford a politically self-inflict wound to the economy. if they don't pan out, he is ready to plomyself -- propose his own tax bill. patience is wearing thin. >> for those of us investing in the stock market, it's disgusting to watch them jockey around with our money. >> reporter: missing in all the last-minute northbounds is talks about the $1.2 trillion mandatory spending cuts scheduled to go into affect tuesday. tara mergener for cbs news, washington....
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the big question is, president obama's increased spending a lot over the past four years. how will he get the revenue from that? is raising tax rates on the so-called rich enough to do it? no, it's not. it doesn't bring in enough money. one the ways he might do it is to squeeze the energy companies a little more. coming up, ceo of southern company, one of the most important guys in the universe will join us right here to say if he expects the big squeeze from the white house. >> i'm david asman with your fox business brief and here east one crisis averted anyway. unions representing dock workers and shippers reached a agreement delaying a strike that could have cripple the u.s. economy. longshoremen and maritime alliance agreed to postpone for 30 days. >>> this would mark the best year for the auto industry since 2007, but experts say the gains made in december could be overshadowed in january because of concerns about the fiscal cliff. >>> the chinese government announcing stiff new rules and requiring users to provide real names to service providers. the move place as gr
the big question is, president obama's increased spending a lot over the past four years. how will he get the revenue from that? is raising tax rates on the so-called rich enough to do it? no, it's not. it doesn't bring in enough money. one the ways he might do it is to squeeze the energy companies a little more. coming up, ceo of southern company, one of the most important guys in the universe will join us right here to say if he expects the big squeeze from the white house. >> i'm david...
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to fund more spending and it increases the debt?" boehner is getting more cut over the fight over the debt creeling that expires in two months. white house aides think it could backfire, an advisor admitted it would be ugly. telling fox we're about to enter 60 days of nastiness. i'm told the president has not spoken to speaker boehner since last friday when they had the summit of leaders here at the white house. the significance of that is that boehner made absolutely no promise to the president he is going to pass the legislation. let alone even bring it up. bret? >> bret: ed, you know, we talked a little bit about the timeline here. the new congress comes in thursday. at noon. so essentially, this senate bill has an expiration date of thursday at noon. at that point, they have to scrap the effort and start all over again. >> that's right. it's essentially the new fiscal cliff, that deadline. every piece of legislation passed by the house or the senate over the last two years completely expires with this current congress. so you've
to fund more spending and it increases the debt?" boehner is getting more cut over the fight over the debt creeling that expires in two months. white house aides think it could backfire, an advisor admitted it would be ugly. telling fox we're about to enter 60 days of nastiness. i'm told the president has not spoken to speaker boehner since last friday when they had the summit of leaders here at the white house. the significance of that is that boehner made absolutely no promise to the...
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president obama flies back from hawaii tonight to be ready if the senate comes back with a plan when it returns to work tomorrow. and house leaders are huddling with members on stand-by to return. senior congressional correspondent dana bash is following all of it for us. what are you hearing? >> there was a conference call of course members of the house leadership even, they're back in their districts, but there was a conference call today among those house republican leaders trying to figure out if and when the house should come back into session. two republican sources tell me they did not make a decision on this call. it's still up in the air. and a big reason for that is if anything can get done in the next six days, the ball is in the senate's court. the capitol is a ghost town. neither chamber in session. an eerie calm since the fiscal cliff only congress has the power to avert is less than one week away. from their home, senate democratic leaders is trying to figure out if the president's scaled back bill can pass congress at the 11th hour. >> there is absolutely no reason, n
president obama flies back from hawaii tonight to be ready if the senate comes back with a plan when it returns to work tomorrow. and house leaders are huddling with members on stand-by to return. senior congressional correspondent dana bash is following all of it for us. what are you hearing? >> there was a conference call of course members of the house leadership even, they're back in their districts, but there was a conference call today among those house republican leaders trying to...